Ma cuti...nama se svi zale...kao svima je teshko...a nama je lako jer smo dobili 4 000 evra za blizance....a potroshili smo duplo vishe do sada...al ko nas pita....josh smo sad obije ne zaposleni...a svi meni kukaju...

Izvinjavam se na off....morala sam da se nadovezem..... a sad idem u krevet...dok mi dragi ne zaspe

Upravo tako,nama su odmah u Tirsovoj prvo radili test n alergiju,da to odmah odbaci ako nije,ne znam zasto vas muci,trazi uput...




Mi kad smo vodili Vuka prvi put imao je 4 meseca i isli smo preko reda jer je beba,tako da neces cekati sigurno,a tvoja beba je jos mladja...

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Nena+Danilo=Vuk :)

Ivaj, pisi sta ima!!!!!!!!

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

mina, bezi iz ove teme...istraumiram se svaki put kad vidim da pises ovde

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The price of discipline is always less than the pain of regret
Robin Sharma

 Jos cemo mi ovde pisati.  Juce nismo bljunuli.

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

Nista
Bili kod dr a kao da nismo.Ispricali se i vratili kuci.
Koliko vidim,on to nista ne bi ''istrazivao'',hoce da i dalje pratimo njeno stanje merenjem i dokle god napreduje nema problema.

Jbt vazim za neku jezicaru a kad god odem tamo on me ubedi da je sve u redu i da ne treba toliko da brinem.

Za proliv isto kaze da nije nista jer ona nema par stolica dnevno nego se taj proliv javi samo ponekad
Mleko vise da joj ne menjamo nego da joj dajemo samo ono koje ona hoce.

I eto,opet nista.Uvek na pocetku.

Poslaces mi br privatnih klinika,ali moram malo da sacekam,da muz pocne da radi i da skupimo pare za preglede.

< Poruku je uredio ivaj -- 30.12.2010 15:42:31 >

Uf...shto mrzim te "opushtene-sve-je-u-redu-lekare" 

Ivaj...idi kod drugog dr-a i trazi uput...ne morash da placash ono shto postoji na drzavnim klinikama...zbog nekog idiota

Odavno nisam pisala ovde

Kod nas sve po starom.
Probali smo i novalac ar koji je odlicno prihvatila ali kako on nije nesto gust,povracala ga je isto kao bebelac.

Sad smo ponovo uveli aptamil ar jer je on stvarno najgusci,nekad bude bolje a nekad isto I sa njim se patimo kad su cucle u pitanju.Ako joj stavim nukovu m,tesko izvlaci a na l se davi.Pa nikako ne valja.

Prosle nedelje smo bili na kontroli i napredovala je 750 gr za mesec dana.

Jako lose spava,posebno nocu.Celu noc histericno vrti glavom levo-desno.Nemam pojma da li stvarno ima veze sa ovim ali sebe sam ubedila da ima.

Ima veze, pece ih kad im se zeludacni sadrzaj vraca u jednjak.
I mi smo se mucili sa mlekom i cuclama, i onda smo odustali od toga.
Inace, Vanja sada retko povraca. Dok sam ga terala da jede mlecne kase, povracao je svaki dan. Kad sam ukapirala da zbog mlecnih kasa odbija da jede i povraca, i prestala da ih forsiram, prestao je da povraca, lepse spava i bolje jede.

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

Super mina,bas mi je drago Red je da i vama konacno svane po pitanju jela.

Uskoro cu i ja poceti sa kasicama,po malo cu joj davati,pa cemo videti kako ce ici.

Evo malo o ishrani refluks beba
What Types of Solid Foods are Best for a "Reflux" baby?
Thus far, there are no solid food guidelines that have been developed solely for the reflux baby. Many pediatricians do suggest that reflux babies avoid foods that are acidic, such as citrus and tomato. These acidic foods should not be introduced until an infant is 12 months of age anyway due to the acidity. Here are a few of the recommendations for introducing solids for the reflux baby:
Rice or other cereal - many pediatricians recommend that reflux babies be fed cereal mixed with their formula to help keep the formula down. The weight of the cereal helps keep the formula in baby''s tummy. You should consult your pediatrician prior to trying cereal in the bottle as it is a dangerous practice and recommended only in severe instances.
Avocado, pears and bananas tend to be good first foods for reflux babies. Avocado is dense and high in important nutrients and fats. Pears are very low in acidity and are easily digested. Studies have shown that Bananas have a mucosal property that actually aids in digestion.


Feeding the Reflux Baby Solid Foods
Making homemade baby food is particularly great for a baby who has reflux. You will be better able to control exactly what your baby is eating and stay away from hidden fillers and possible irritants.
When feeding a baby with reflux, you should try to follow these tips:

Always feed your reflux baby in a upright position. This will help the food or liquid "stay down".
Do not lay your baby down directly after baby has been fed.
Space out baby feedings of both solid foods and liquid foods into smaller more frequent feedings. This will help the reflux baby keep the foods in the tummy and also will aid in digestion. It is far easier for a reflux baby to digest small amounts as opposed to large amounts.
Avoid dairy products, even yogurts and cheeses.


< Poruku je uredio Jeca RR -- 21.1.2011 9:14:56 >

Evo jos malo

Does your baby have reflux? Try papaya!
On introducing solid foods to a baby with reflux, many parents find that some fruits and juices - particularly oranges, apples, rhubarb and bananas - can make the pain worse.
Tomatoes and tomato juice are also commonly responsible for flare-ups.
Pears are the least acidic fruit and may be the best fruit to try first.
Pear baby food recipes, guidelines and tips


OTHER FOODS WHICH MAY WORSEN REFLUX SYMPTOMS
Foods that cause a lot of burping can aggravate the pain of reflux. For this reason, it''''s a good idea to avoid...
onion
garlic
cucumber
Brussel sprouts
cabbage
cauliflower
corn
The following foods (which may not all be suitable for very young babies) are also notorious for triggering reflux flare ups:
pineapple
whole milk, flavoured milk or foods prepared with whole milk
high fat foods, including fatty meat and chicken skin
bacon
sausages
creamy soups
creamed vegetables
carbonated drinks

It is very important that you follow the four day rule when introducing solid foods to a baby with reflux, so that you are able to quickly identify which foods trigger a flare-up in your baby.
Doctors usually recommend introducing foods with a fairly thick consistency, as it is felt that these "stay down" better and provide your baby with more calories. But parents of some babies with severe oral aversion (unwillingness to eat) find that they have more success with thinly pureed foods. It seems that the key is to experiment a little, under your doctor''''s supervision, to see what works best for your child and to ensure that the food you give is smooth. Gagging on lumps often worsens reflux.
To cre_ate a suitable texture for YOUR baby, check out our tips on how to thicken or thin baby food purees.


Introducing solid foods to a baby with reflux - Tips for successful feeding
Try giving your baby small meals on a frequent basis, rather than a few "main" meals.
Avoid feeding your baby in the last hour or two before bedtime, to minimise night-time discomfort and waking.
Prop your baby''''s bed to an angle of around 30 degrees. The easiest way to do this is to securely place the legs of the bed on blocks. Alternatively, raise the mattress itself - special wedges are available for this purpose. The mattress should always be flat - if it is bent, it can cause your baby to "bend" in the middle, worsening the problem.
Keep your baby upright for at least 20 mins after feeding - try holding him against your shoulder, or place him on a raised bed.
Don''''t put your baby in an infant seat after feeding - this causes slouching, which can worsen reflux.
Bathe your baby or change his nappy/diaper BEFORE feeding, or at least 2 hours afterwards.
When changing his nappy, prop your baby''''s head on a pillow. Don''''t fasten his nappy too tightly around his abdomen and avoid tight clothing.
Door bouncers, baby walkers and other equipment designed to keep baby upright before he can stand tend to press on the abdomen and are best avoided if your baby has reflux.
Consider using infant massage, which aids digestion and can ease the symptoms of infant reflux.
Think about offering your baby a pacifier/dummy. This encourages sucking, which increases the amount of saliva your baby produces. The alkaline properties of saliva can neutralize the acid coming up, reducing your baby''''s discomfort

< Poruku je uredio Jeca RR -- 21.1.2011 9:19:53 >

Nije poenta koliko je mleko gusto...nego treba da se zgusne u zeludcu da ne bi izletelo napolje...

E mina gde me nadje sa tekstom koji je na engleskom

Ne znas engleski? Hmm, mrzi me da prevodim. pitaj sta te zanima o cvrstoj hrani kod refluks beba pa cu ti reci, tako mi lakse nego da ti prevodim i kucam ceo tekst.
Probaj da iskopiras tekst na google translate, mozda ti prevede makar grubo , skontaces sta pise.

< Poruku je uredio minavb -- 21.1.2011 17:57:02 >

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

Prevela sam i sad znam sta pise

Nego nisam vam pisala o tome sta se desavalo proteklih dana.Pocela sam Jeci da dajem pirinacane pahuljice,ali samo po kasicicu ili dve dnevno.
I desilo se cudo!
Tri dana nije povratila ni kap
Juce nije htela da jede na kasicicu i sinoc se opet ispovracala,danas zbog njenog rasporeda nisam uspela da joj dam pahuljice i ceo dan povraca

Posto je jos uvek mala,nastavicu ovako,znaci necu da joj dajem ceo obrok pirincanih p nego samo po par kasika,bar tamo negde do tri tri i po meseca.

Kao sto rekoh, stanje se popravlja uz pirincanu kasu a refluks bebama se jako rano zitarice uvode u ishranu. Samo ti njoj daj po malo pirinca svaki dan i bice bolje.
Inace, Vanja sad skoro i da ne povraca. Povrati samo kad nagura nesto u grlo i sve bolje jede.

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

Moj Lazar takođe često bljucka, gotovo posle svakog obroka. Nekad baš obilno, pa i na nos. Takođe sam primetila da rano ujutru ne može da se svrti u krevetiću, samo stenje i vrti glavicom. Hranim ga u što uzdignutijem položaju, uvek čekam da podrigne, ima new born cuclu itd.

Kako da znam da li je refluks ili obilnije bljuckanje?

Ovo smo se svi pitali na pocetku.
Znas kako ja to gledam-bljuckanje je kad izbaci manju kolicinu mleka koja se onako slije niz bradu,a povracanje je kad krene veca kolicina u mlazu(ali ne mora taj mlaz da doseze 1m ).I na primer,kad se to desava cesto,posle svakog obroka,po vise puta i po dva sata posle hranjenja.

Sad ce da ti se javi i mr dr mina,ona je magistrirala na ovoj temi.

Mina pomagaj!

Vika, koliko cesto povraca? Koje mleko pije, jeste li bili kod lekara zbog toga? Odvedite dete kod lekara obavezno, i budite uporni. Ako mu i na nos izlazi kad povraca, ako baci veliku kolicinu u jednom mlazu, to nije bljuckanje i moze boti refluks. Moj Vanja je najvise refluksirao ujutru i prepodne. Tad je najvise povracao i vristao kad hocu da ga nahranim. I sad mleko povraca samo ako mu ga dam prepodne. Ako ke dete na dohrani, probajte AR mleko. Moj savet je Novalac. Kazu da su dobre i Dr Brown flasice sa ventilima ali to nisam probala. U svakom slucaju idite kod lekara.

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Mina, persona non grata :)

Mišljenje je kao zadnjica - svako ga ima.I ne samo što ga ima, već ima i potrebu da skine gaće i drugima maše istim ispred nosa.

Da,jako bitna stvar je i kada si to primetila-odmah po rodjenju ili se skoro pojavilo?

pije Aptamil 1 i moje, Avent flašice i da, bude obilno, više puta na dan, pa i na nos! da li znaš da li je rano da se uvedu pirinčane pahuljice( 2,5 meseca)? Doduše, svakako moram proveriti kod dr jer je prevremeno rođen pa nisam sigurna da za uvođenje hrane važe iste norme.
Puno ti hvala
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